In the local church I attend you can’t teach the Bible unless you first believe the creed. It is a sloppy creed with grammatical errors and contradictions within itself, let alone contradictions with the actual Word of God. Even the Pastor of the local church I attend doesn’t necessarily believe every word of it. Specifically, you must believe in a resurrected glorified body of flesh that will someday return to rule with Christ and live forever on earth. This is worse to me than believing that the law of Moses (that was about to go away when the Bible was being completed) could give you eternal life. At least the law of Moses is the Word of God, as given to His old covenant creation of the nation still in the flesh. My local church actually demands that you still believe in ruling in the flesh, even 2000 years after the people of God’s kingdom were reborn.

The shepherds of this local church body used their personal belief in the flesh, to purge those who believe we actually rule with Christ by walking in the Holy Spirit. Jesus specifically sent the Holy Spirit to Jerusalem to enable his people in the flesh to rule with Him by way of their Holy Spirit rebirth. The 12 tribes were being born again in Jerusalem. My Bible was completed by the born again Jews who ruled to the age in the Holy Spirit, not in the flesh. Paul didn’t rule the church in the flesh or write scripture in the flesh. Paul shepherded the first century churches in the Holy Spirit. It was the Jews still in the flesh that tried to stop the reborn people of God from walking in the Spirit. They wanted to rule in the flesh. Paul opposed Peter to his face for succumbing to the flesh rulers.

My Bible says if you are still walking in the flesh you are about to die. Ruling to the age and forever was accomplished by walking in the Holy Spirit, not by walking in the flesh. You are no longer in the flesh if you are born again, not you are forever in the flesh if you are born again – 2 Corinthians 5:16-21. My church used some unethical flesh tactics to purge the church of those who believe we rule forever by walking in the Holy Spirit of God. The perpetrators of the purge were only going to ask the one person they wanted cancelled, “Do you believe every word of the church creed? Yes or no?”. He answered no and he no longer teaches or attends. The requirement to affirm the creed without reason was a tool aimed at one person. The creed affirmation question was inadvertently sent as a qualification test to all the deacons, but nobody is requiring answers from all the deacons. Their forever in the flesh creed was unfairly used as a tool to rid the teaching body of the people who believe in ruling with God forever by way of the Holy Spirit rather than glorified flesh.

Scripture says nothing about reborn glorified flesh that never dies. Even if you think it does, that was the unenlightened error of Nicodemus. He could only imagine kingdom life by a rebirth of his flesh body. Eternal life in heaven does not require a rebirth of your physical flesh. If only Jesus would have told Nicodemus that his flesh would be resurrected and glorified after 2000+ years of living in the realm of heaven without it. Not to worry Nic. A 20th century creed has you covered. Why did Jesus tell him he had to be reborn into a different realm to even see the kingdom? Nicodemus could have been a teacher in 20th century America if he hadn’t met Jesus. Now he believes the Holy Spirit rebirth is the only essential to enter the kingdom.

It is only people in the flesh who to be need ruled on earth. People who walk in the Holy Spirit can’t be ruled by people in the flesh. They follow Jesus. People who follow Jesus don’t make up unethical rules to try to rule the born again people of God. Why didn’t Jesus didn’t tell the teacher of Jerusalem about the glorified flesh body. How could Jesus allow Nicodemus to go on teaching? Actually Nicodemus needed to stop thinking in the flesh. We don’t need to teach flesh thinking. Thinking in the flesh comes naturally. It is a church attraction due to the nature of our first born body. The flesh body doesn’t have to live forever, but you do have to be born in the flesh before you can be born again. You are not required to live in the flesh forever after being born into the family of heaven. In fact you can’t. Everyone dies to their flesh eventually. Nobody has ever proved this wrong. Promise all you want, the flesh body always dies. Unless you are reborn into the family of God you perish with it. If you are reborn you can’t die. Do you believe this? “Yes or no?” The inquisitor asks for a yes or no answer because debate is out of the question. The question of our eternal body is so open to debate they refuse to debate. They are afraid because they will surely not rule in the church in an honest debate. They want to rule God’s church in the flesh. They appeal to the flesh to join them in their hypocrisy. If you desire to live forever in the flesh then come to my local church. They require teachers to believe it. The teacher of Israel would have believed it before he was corrected by Jesus.

Galatians 5:1-4

YLT ¹ In the freedom, then, with which Christ did make you free—stand ye, and be not held fast again by a yoke of servitude; ² lo, I Paul do say to you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing; ³ and I testify again to every man circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law; ⁴ ye were freed from the Christ, ye who in law are declared righteous; from the grace ye fell away;

Transitioning from the law of Moses to the law of Christ posed unique problems of conscious. The law of Moses still had standing until AD 70. Sacrifices continued to be made. The old covenant transition to the new covenant took 40 years of Holy Sprit enabled reformation. Flesh was still a big issue to those still observing the old covenant in the realm of flesh and blood bodies.

1 Corinthians 8:10-13

YLT ¹⁰ for if any one may see thee that hast knowledge in an idol’s temple reclining at meat—shall not his conscience—he being infirm—be emboldened to eat the things sacrificed to idols, ¹¹ and the brother who is infirm shall perish by thy knowledge, because of whom Christ died? ¹² and thus sinning in regard to the brethren, and smiting their weak conscience—in regard to Christ ye sin; ¹³ wherefore, if victuals cause my brother to stumble, I may eat no flesh—to the age—that my brother I may not cause to stumble.

It seems salvation was in the balance until the covenant transition was complete. Paul was willing to sacrifice anything to save his Jewish brother still in the flesh covenant body. He said he was even willing to die accursed like his savior did if it would help. Jesus’ death on the cross (not ruling the kingdom in the flesh) was a stumbling stone to the Jews under law. They wanted to rule in their flesh forever. Yet Paul advises the Corinthians not to be an offense to the weaker brother lest he perish by your more mature knowledge of good and evil. Consciousness of good and evil is a tricky thing. It is how Satan put Adam and Eve on the track to perish to the age. We receive the good conscious of Christ by being born again. My church says I must believe in ruling in the flesh or be quiet. They believe like Nicodemus did, that we must be born again in the flesh to rule in the kingdom. Jesus corrected Nicodemus. Jesus said you cant enter or see the kingdom in the flesh. You must be born of the Holy Spirit to rule in God’s kingdom. He said nothing about a second flesh birth that would rule in the kingdom and be eternally glorious.

Romans 9

CLV ¹ The truth am I telling in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience testifying together with me in holy spirit, ² 2 That my sorrow is great, and unintermittent pain is in my heart -” ³ for I myself wished to be anathema from Christ – for my brethren, my relatives according to the flesh, ⁴ who are Israelites, whose is the sonship and the glory and the covenants [not including their new covenant, according to the anti-fellowship creed of my local church. According to the creed the Jews are still waiting to be born again in the flesh] and the legislation and the divine service and the promises;” ⁵ whose are the fathers, and out of whom is the Christ according to the flesh, [Jesus humbled Himself by taking on a flesh body that could and did die. He returned to the glory He had before He came down from heaven. He did not return to His glorified flesh body in heaven.] Who is over all, God be blessed for the eons. Amen!” ⁶ Now it is not such as that the word of God has lapsed, for not all those out of Israel, these are Israel;” ⁷ neither that Abraham’s seed are all children, but “In Isaac shall your seed be called.” ⁸ That is, that the children of the flesh, not these are the children of God, but the children of the promise is He reckoning for the seed.” ⁹ For the word of the promise is this: At “this seasonI shall come “and there will be for Sarah a son.” ¹⁰ Yet, not only so, but Rebecca also is having her bed of one, Isaac, our father.” ¹¹ For, not as yet being born, nor putting into practice anything good or bad, that the purpose of God may be remaining as a choice, not out of acts, but of Him Who is calling, ¹² it was declared to her that “The greater shall be slaving for the inferior, ¹³ According as it is written, “Jacob I love, yet Esau I hate.” ¹⁴ What, then, shall we be declaring? Not that there is injustice with God? May it not be coming to that!” ¹⁵ For to Moses He is saying, “I shall be merciful to whomever I may be merciful, and I shall be pitying whomever I may be pitying.” ¹⁶ Consequently, then, it is not of him who is willing, nor of him who is racing, but of God, the Merciful.” ¹⁷ For the scripture is saying to Pharaoh that “For this selfsame thing I rouse you up, so that I should be displaying in you My power, and so that My name should be published in the entire earth.” ¹⁸ Consequently, then, to whom He will, He is merciful, yet whom He will, He is hardening.” ¹⁹ You will be protesting to me, then, “Why, then, is He still blaming? for who has withstood His intention? ²⁰ O man! who are you, to be sure, who are answering again to God? That which is molded will not protest to the molder, “Why do you make me thus? ²¹ Or has not the potter the right over the clay, out of the same kneading to make one vessel, indeed, for honor, yet one for dishonor? ²² Now if God, wanting to display His indignation and to make His powerful doings known, carries, with much patience, the vessels of indignation, adapted for destruction, ²³ it is that He should also be making known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He makes ready before for glory -” ²⁴ us, whom He calls also, not only out of the Jews, but out of the nations also.” ²⁵ As He is saying in Hosea also: I shall be calling those who are not My people “My people,And she who is not beloved “Beloved, ²⁶ And it shall be, in the place where it was declared to them, ‘Not My people are you,’There “they shall be called ‘sons of the living God.'” ²⁷ Now Isaiah is crying over Israel, If the number of the sons of Israel should be as the sand of the sea, the residue shall be saved, ²⁸ for “a conclusive and concise accounting the Lord will be doing on the earth.” ²⁹ And according as Isaiah declared before, “Except the Lord of hosts conserved us a seed, As Sodom would we become, And to Gomorrah would we be likened.” ³⁰ What, then, shall we be declaring? That the nations who are not pursuing righteousness overtook righteousness, yet a righteousness which is out of faith.” ³¹ Yet Israel, pursuing a law of righteousness, into a law of righteousness does not outstrip.” ³² Wherefore? Seeing that it is not out of faith, but as out of law works, they stumble on the stumbling stone, ³³ according as it is written: Lo! I am laying in Zion a Stumbling Stone and a Snare Rock, And the one believing on Him shall not be disgraced.”

It was the unfaithful Jews who were still insisting on ruling in the flesh. They were disgraced at the end of their age. Jesus told Peter to forgive his old covenant offenders till 490. The second 490 failed years in the land of flesh and blood Jews ended over 2000 years ago. Peter himself was born again into the new covenant body no longer in the flesh. In AD 70 the law came down on the Jews still in the flesh. Forgiveness under law is no more. Forgiveness is only given when one is born again into the Holy Spirit realm family of Christ. Jesus overcame covenant death so we could live and rule with Him. He did not save His people from biological death. The death of the old covenant body was evidence that the old covenant body could not rule the kingdom in the flesh.

1 Corinthians 15:50-58 Amplified Bible (AMP) Now I say this, believers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit nor be part of the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable (mortal) inherit the imperishable (immortal).